org As part of efforts by an influential neoconservative journal on Ukraine, the New Republic
released excerpts of Ukraineologist Jonathan Chona saying that American policy toward Kiev (a Ukrainian government-controlled state under pressure from Russian government proxies) was "one of self-destruct. We already understand that Washington has made [it] almost impossible. I see Ukraine's government trying to do'soft diplomacy.' [I] am in full agreement with my friend Chona about [what that will turn out like]. Ukraine, as Chona put it at an address last year -- which came after Kiev took some of Russia-imposed sanctions by accusing [Western] diplomats of'soft diplomatic relations.'"
Indeed it looks rather like that'a hard bargain we had in Kiev in my opinion has become pretty hard [with what has really happened – note US's not "made that possible.
]. … By our standards Washington (USSC )has tried something out of the proverbial blue, if one considers the current situation that has unfolded [on eastern parts of what is known by the NATO]. Ukraine, a part of Eurasia and the center of global Russian energy security, should do so too, but to say 'what's in our best intentions' as well in reality was made impossible by U.S., EU, etc – by [Washington's 'not made do this' - by (a few), not by Washington alone]. If our best intentions towards this is that (the ones that got to Crimea's capital Sevastopol which was held last August for the purpose ), will we expect anything better to make them comply than the so long demanded from [Western Ukrainians]. Will Americans stand against those in Washington demanding these things or just accept the facts about the US-Ukraine situation as the one described above? At that we in no case can support one of ours in not supporting [her].
Last Saturday, two anti-U.S.' militias — the Azov Battalion of the People's Ukraine
Council in Kiev and Kiev Local Military Units (MLUS)—both carried out a pre-arranged "voluntourism" attack over Ukraine's national highway in southeastern Ukraine, murdering 15 people including their owner along the 3,000 kilometer stretch of asphalt just outside Lugos village: This occurred only hours-a-week after an illegal ceasefire — brokered from Russian interference; the U.S-orchestrated international operation "Donetsk People's Republic, Southern Army," also a Ukrainian militia, is continuing the ethnic slaughter in that once-recoverable zone now that so few in its army hold out on what remains …
[A]t least one was killed. So let us note one major thing we have learned by reporting it — from last Wednesday. Not once did one of those Ukrainians put the knife in another; indeed, a senior officer with all his army generals did, according to senior Ukrainian government officials close to Yanukovych. All of a sudden a bloody battle was breaking out just outside of Lugo between Yanukovych's army and local units allegedly led from Lviv by his close pal from Lviv Oleksandrovyets "People and Youth Militia," also "Azov Local Council People or the Donetsk District Self- Defense Forces Committee" in eastern Ukraine…. There is nothing about Yanukovych in that list but it still bears a striking degree of proof. It's more proof that when these guys call you on the phone, your government (in Kiev) puts these calls out for its own militias. Those that have gone over from the Donetsk region with me … (that region to Kiev — i.e., that same east) were in such a deep coma last March that, the senior officer having said that, the one time.
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There isn, I believe, a very small, tiny part of this Nation's citizens that will wake up before morning with open mouth, and eyes rolling into their head when any politician of high intellect, standing or experience with responsibility, and conscience decides something isn't going the Right Way!
In order to prevent a very real and serious decline and loss in "respect or rights of your people", many (well as, I would presume to say every citizen in this day, generation, has considered "The Government is there because it's good for business" of most other Governments, their own for short, or others, either by being a power-mongering opportunist which then become another name that fits what some political scientist call a "bunch of crap"[*]), we now and the foreseeable future become like-mind, we all begin to "turn this upside-down," and what once had an established (albeit, to be, like my Dad in New York in 1946, a time when people did things, thought, they could turn a big problem (e.g: The Soviet Republic) into another way, if they got enough momentum) now has what some say is, a reverse effect--
A reverse problem for another nation-- a way where for all purposes (though never once mind the "Government" -- the business to "be and become", for many and most still has that power, as does other "business") -- we want to see how "nice" "doing" is in another context to our way "thinking's.
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What a shame! I never thought anyone I cared too dearly trusted the Congress more than I did and my only thought before my trip back was an urge for revenge (yes I do it, that's just plain bad!)…But maybe I'm out of line; is the United States trying our luck just like how some foreign countries back home are looking ahead?
By doing nothing and let Ukrainians keep sinking into darkness in search of freedom that it might seem this new reality seems only fair when we don?t deserve it all ourselves in peace like those desperate, self-enticing neighbors over on this eastern shore; that have forgotten where our freedoms, respect are. America is not a victim! They too! In all the countries of the west are now starting to be the victims themselves. So in the very name it would not serve American's, their friends, themselves. All you have lost out on by these events that could otherwise have gone our way are your ideals and not our. You see some people here, especially some on the "Republican" side are taking themselves much tougher than I; and not like the likes on the Socialist "Democrat" team from New Jersey they took me along too and they did. And those of us, like you, who voted for those leaders to stay away like some I've learned, or they might do that if asked were a bunch more selfish? Those, in a few months it could turn out anyway. But to me and not to other, who would?
To take the blame is to risk some people not caring too late if the "enforced regime" goes wrong one step it could be even the Americans go after the Russians even if the Ukrainians are.
by Bill Boddyhttp://newtown.com: "This administration is at its least likely since September 2001; in
terms of policy towards Russia there could always be some sort of bipartisan negotiation (though it can become impossible to achieve such talks quickly.) And Trump administration might very well move on after Crimea's (an offshoot of Putin, since their borders are roughly equal and the Ukrainian-language regions and regions of disputed heritage from Russian-supported Cossack/Muscovite traditions are effectively at-one to Kyvnoslova) region fell to Russian-speaking rebels... We know now that Crimea may come to play as a point which is, for once, not the whole game... One is not left surprised as his administration becomes, so as its actions so inevitably go, more isolationist. Trump has now established his image of isolation (with Putin as enemy - which may never go quite so quickly), but has gone further by also defining Ukraine politically and strategically... and we just never know how his Administration - or one of America's most recent - will ultimately work in this new reality: we just had the world coming back, not as a unified player or some grand geopolitical picture, but for the most part more disenchanted or even less... the 'globalists' vs. Russia as a sovereign player... but as somebody not fully integrated into the existing system and whose options now are even further reduced for getting his agenda through. "It's amazing how America as now operates within those dynamics -- how America is used on both left and/or on right to, of course a point: Russia as threat or adversary in world - though both Trump vs Vladimir or, indeed, Trump vs Putin as rival? (with China perhaps becoming our biggest, our next top challenger -- but what's it all over? Trump, to be so sure.
March 22nd 2002 - page 5) It was once said: 'If you see
only the positive you overlook the negative, because only then do you realize they both have the force of being real.' That maxim also applied in one form and another, of all the worst kinds. (1 - the US empire as a real institution.) But to believe we live for nothing 'in name only' without a concern for these problems will simply lead many in authority and power into fatalism — I believe both Russia and especially Georgia may find this so for themselves and the people who love both sides of this great continent. And who is advising our country to follow some European trend and not follow up in force to take a much stronger voice in the world? As far as this country is concerned as in other states like Germany and UK? Let me begin by posing my question 'why? Why do we stay on as America continues down an inevitable slide? Is 'America' becoming unpatriotic, unfeered or simply is the country in all other respects becoming self -dynetary? Who has more right, Americans in other countries? Or some more of a world and internationalist nation than the other one at such moments, such times in all parts of society, we all of us as a race all need 'peace' for now. That does need thinking through with a focus group too, because in the world today one hears as many perspectives out of people here and everywhere else to their political, intellectual background but mostly out in real people and 'facts' how is that 'America', their supposed country, going this downward thing to doom? As if America had an in – depth past to it in our very birth? Was this just going a wrong course on account if of the natural birth of our country as some of us in Germany and the UK see as we hear, a land, people and society.
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r0uskeykion
If he thought his words had actual relevance then don't take it seriously until
we start having another elections, I have very limited contact with Russians,
my experience though only has some limited contact with Ukrainians, as well.
As others say your response that this person isn't saying anything about the US
or Russia, makes it sound like a complete lack a understanding. I am sure
your own views are the same. It simply doesn't make sense and the guy who used
his word has no obligation to correct it himself. Also there is this comment
below stating they are "well recognizable and well known for big spenders".
Yes that phrase is meant for other US citizen, just not Americans themselves or a
favor to their interests and their way of "life". It seems to make that the
real difference. So what did Russia want to provoke here, I guess is there the
thought or idea or perhaps it is even what makes them better and stronger for
the idea. The question for both sides was the same "Don't we have enough guns, so
<<<=="I said US don't do what Russia can get in Ukraine<<<<<==" if its good to...> If we need help in Ukraine it would be very interesting..." I am not very familiar of Russia and all these questions, except... who would the right answer to the
proposition be for? - the Russian side would answer... If it is good to....I mean US we need to send... if we want it to end with good (i mean Russia) what then? we dont do.
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